Gearbox Manual Perdana Sei
Since my last review on 26th Jan 2010, 04:29.
Gearbox auto proton kod F4A222 atau F4A232 kebanyakan digunakan pada proton wira/satria/putra 1.6/1.8 dan perdana sei dan V6. Dan kebanyakkan model.
My auto tranny experienced heavy judder and shocks (from gear shifting) after an outing out of town in hilly terrain. Early morning engine starts will have a very loud pitch equivalent to 'slicing' of the plates and/or straining of the autobox. To use the car as smooth as possible, I had to frequently switch off the OVERDRIVE button to minimise gear shifts and hold on to lower gears longer. After 2 weeks, from a stand still, my car started on 2nd/3rd gear and so had not much momentum to move the car. Fearful that prolonged usage will cause the autobox to jam whilst driving at high speeds on the highway, I then decide to seriously consider a tranny change for safety on the road for others, including myself.
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- 2002 Proton Perdana perdana v6 from Malaysia. The Perdana SEI. Recently I decided to change the gearbox to manual.
I finally made the decision to change my 'faulty' tranny (Mitsubishi's tranny code F4A222NPF) last weekend. After doing some research from the internet, I finally decided (taking into consideration of costs/time factor) to purchase a Japan half-cut auto tranny of the same model (if you follow the same, I suggest you ask the foreman whether the tranny is used for the 2.0 ltr Galant/ Eterna engine models as some are used for 1.6 and 1.8 models).
(Note: some quotes I received in April / May 2010:
RM2.0K with 6 months warranty with 20K mileage.
RM3.2K with 12 months warranty and unlimited mileage, RM1.2K – RM1.4K, but warranty 1 week to month, and RM2.4K)
I visited a chop shop (breakers yard if you will), and it so happened to have a unit already dismantled from the original body and was on the floor. The foreman told me there were 3 units laying around, but the other 3 were unsuitable, as 2 were for 4G91/4G93 engines (meant for 1.5 ltr engines - gear ratios will be different) whilst the other were F5M222 (which were for the 5 speed manual tranny).
Since the foreman offered me at RM1,100 (normal outside price for similar Japan import unit were RM1,200 - RM1,500) whilst a typical reconditioned unit in Malaysia retails between RM850 - RM1,600). I would not recommend going for reconditioned unit as the workmanship for such units (especially in Malaysia) is shoddy (as per my previous bad experience with my former Peugeot 406A). This is due to the inferior quality clutch plates used by the workshop, which would not last long, whilst if you were to use Japanese imported used parts, the usage mileage is lower and original from the car manufacturer, which is of better quality.
The chop shop actually had a 'panel' foreman who will install the gearbox at a LABOUR price either at RM120 (for each install) or RM250 (for unlimited installations / exchanges). Since I had a 7-day warranty for the autobox, I opted for the RM250 installation to ensure that I could easily change the autobox within the warranty period. (Some car owners have experienced engine changes up to 8 times).
The removal and installation of the replacement autobox took altogether 8 hours, and the final results were worth it. The autobox now changes very smoothly and according to his workers when they removed my autobox, the ATF shows some 'white' stuff in the oil, which I believe to be bits of the clutch plate disintegrated. A word of advice: if you also experience heavy judder and gear shift shocks, do an ATF change and inspect the oil for signs of metal bits; if you have, then be prepare for a tranny change.
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